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Post by Kristi is prescribed skeletons on Nov 28, 2012 0:48:02 GMT -8
DKender Aw, killdeer do that exact thing. www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nmzi_mlFXQCrows also have funerals. They place a piece of grass down, have a moment of silence, then fly away. Oh, and if the birds by the grocery store are black with colorfully glossy feathers, black beaks, are medium sized, and have white eyes, they're grackles. I love how they really look out for each other! If we have a nests in our bushes, six or so grackles from the flock at a time sit around in higher tree branches, ready for action if someone gets too close. @kelly Cute talking bird video spam time Quoth the raven, "waka waka waka" www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIX_6TBeph0I find this pair's interactions to be truly, truly hysterical. www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uYgC1bN02MIBudgies talking with their little, tiny voices crack me up without fail. One of my mom's free range office budgies named Puppy (She also named the cocatiel I mentioned before. His name is Baby.) speaks a bit more garbled than this little stud did. www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSeIDYFDv3E
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Post by Thy Dungyeon Maestyr on Nov 28, 2012 5:10:51 GMT -8
And.... I'm spent. Hey DeeK. Pics or it didn't happen.
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Only One Skeleton has the Power to Control both Life and Death, Light and Dark, Words and Blank Space, Our Humble Lives Continue Only by the Grace and Magnanimity of This Skeleton
Nay, let us walk from fire unto firey skeleton ...
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Post by DKender on Nov 28, 2012 11:31:54 GMT -8
Pics! For once, the OP delivers! This first picture was taken from my car, after I stopped because the birds wouldn't move: Here's a couple awful close-ups (I purchased my camera from a garage sale for ten bucks) - as a warning, the dead bird is partially visible: Then somebody honked at me, so I walked through the bird cluster, and they scampered away. My friend said that the males are black, and the females are brown. The dead bird had black feathers, so he was a fallen brother
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Post by Thy Dungyeon Maestyr on Nov 28, 2012 15:49:51 GMT -8
What a scene! Amazing.
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Post by ◊◊BLOODBEASTER◊◊ on Nov 28, 2012 16:13:45 GMT -8
@ Dkender - Awww poor bbs! The body looks a lot more decayed than I would have expected. I wonder what they wanted to do? @kelly Old world vampires were straight up inhuman monsters, but Dragomir is pretty much the same as he was in life. He's still a "Dracula" type of vampire in my mind. I was referring to the legends of the bloated, ruddy faced vampires. (IE, real life corpses that had concentrations of blood, people dug them up and thought they looked freaky and therefore were vampires, when they were in fact, just normal corpses.) That's why Dragomir has the blotches on his face. He's relatively inhuman compared to the other vampires too, in real life he was more just plain old psychotic. There's so many different takes in folklore on vampires, Lepponens for instance having the ability to turn into cats was common in certain tales. Also we got some of our ideas from modern stories, like ladybugs biting humans. (Also there was a Finnish goddess who had an affinity to cats and ladybugs.) Vampires are so cool, I need to include one with a tail and missing fingers eventually.
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Post by ◊◊BLOODBEASTER◊◊ on Nov 28, 2012 16:15:19 GMT -8
I am reminded of the time Christopher and I found a dead goldfinch in a parking lot in downtown Seattle. I wished I knew how to do amateur taxidermy, it was very recently dead and so beautiful. ;_;
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Only One Skeleton has the Power to Control both Life and Death, Light and Dark, Words and Blank Space, Our Humble Lives Continue Only by the Grace and Magnanimity of This Skeleton
Nay, let us walk from fire unto firey skeleton ...
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Post by DKender on Nov 28, 2012 17:02:20 GMT -8
@ Kelly - Judging by its state, the bird must have died at least 24 hours before that scene. Maybe longer. I suspect, if they hadn't been interrupted, his comrades would have successfully completed their resurrection dance.
Aw, poor finch! I wonder what his story was. My extended family is big into scavenging feathers and quills from roadkill, for their regalia at super special dances, but I have trouble looking at dead things because they are too static. Even preserved copepods are disturbing. Actually, especially preserved copepods.
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Post by Kristi is prescribed skeletons on Nov 28, 2012 17:29:47 GMT -8
DKender I don't know if it's the perspective or not, but it looks like the deceased was rather young. :-( @kelly "I was referring to the legends of the bloated, ruddy faced vampires." No worries I got that, but for me it's more the "werewolf-like" behavior that I associate with those guys- wild and totally reborn as a new creature. ;-) I personally like the tale that if you leap over a grave, its contents become a vampire. Another one is either speaking over or shaking hands over a body does the trick. Former or the latter or both? I can't remember.
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Post by ∆§Indea§∆ on Nov 28, 2012 18:10:59 GMT -8
DKender- People don't give enough emotional intelligence to animals. That scene is amazing! Sometimes I think animals have more emotional intelligence, I admire a dog's ability to give unconditional love but I respect the cat's ability to make you work for it. ;D
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Post by Kristi is prescribed skeletons on Nov 29, 2012 7:33:28 GMT -8
∆§Indea§∆ Many other animal species DO have more emotional intelligence. Modern human social structures have gotten really wonky over the years of evolution. It's a sad and fascinating subject. www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0KYU2j0TM4
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Post by ∆§Indea§∆ on Nov 29, 2012 14:19:04 GMT -8
Kristi is prescribed skeletons- It is an interesting subject but unfortunately you can't really say "DO" because we can't truly prove that they do, especially if it's actually a fact. It would be like asking chickens to measure our intelligence. One day maybe when we can communicate with the animals and science improves etc.
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Post by Kristi is prescribed skeletons on Nov 29, 2012 15:22:17 GMT -8
Well, let me show ya how I personally put things into perspective so that I came to that conclusion:
Several other animal species never kill each other over petty issues, and will use many techniques to avoid killing. Rats killing each other for vengeance or food? That will never happen. Wild rats instinctively always share with each other. One of the rarest things in nature is for a rat to intentionally kill another rat, while humans murder each other every single day over money, anger, and more rarely for fun.
This is just one example of a species that does not have the social complications humans do. Do other species fight, hold grudges, and kill each other intentionally? Yes. A lot of bird species kill each other over mates and parrots are known for holding grudges. I'd still say a cattering of starlings are more functional as a society than humans that on average don't know their neighbors names. I can almost certainly tell you that there are other species that have it together better than a large percentage of humans.
That's what I've gleaned, anyway.
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Post by Thy Dungyeon Maestyr on Nov 29, 2012 18:56:06 GMT -8
Humans are animals, and animals are every bit as much of assholes as we are. You can make excuses for male tigers eating baby tigers all you want, but I can make excuses for humans just the same.
The idea of balance in natural order is another one favored by some people that I find absurd. Nature reaches a detente, never anything like true cooperation. Every animal does its best for itself and - when given the opportunity - is just as destructive and creepy as humans.
We refer to our cats as "stupids" and "jerks" fairly often, because it's freaking accurate, and it's not like they can understand us. Even if they could, politesse and niceness are human inventions that they wouldn't care for. The most visible animal social behavior consists of beating each other up to establish dominance. It never ends. They are stupid jerks.
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Post by ∆§Indea§∆ on Nov 29, 2012 21:00:03 GMT -8
What Chris says is pretty true also, cats torture mice needlessly for hours. I would just like point out that emotional intelligence like all intelligence has nothing to do with being kind, unselfish or moral. It's merely the ability to understand, use and manipulate emotion, so even a cruel person can be very emotionally intelligent. We must also remember that with a capacity for cruelty comes capacity for kindness etc, it's never purely one or the other.
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Post by Dr. Maneep Pamplemousse on Nov 29, 2012 21:31:29 GMT -8
Don't forget primates have been observed engaging in organized warfare and chimps, specifically, have been videotaped lynching a member of their own tribe and killing it in cold blood.
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