Post by ◊◊BLOODBEASTER◊◊ on Aug 20, 2012 14:32:47 GMT -8
Now: Everything else! So much good stuff happening in this thread. I should compile everything into a "Kingfisher suggests!" I love Tale of Two Sisters, Christopher thought it was too confusing but he's silly. The beautiful set design and creepy pacing.. Luv it. Korea seems to be where it's at for horror films lately, Japan is... well, whatever they're doing lately, they're not doing horror. Also A+ for the Host, and Kiyoshi Kurosawa (Pulse) is my favorite director next to David Lynch. OMG, so cool that my readers have THE BEST taste! I really loved Persona 3, though I haven't the others in the series yet. Actually the character of Jack is like 3rd hand inspired by Persona 3, I made a character based on that universe for something else, and then based Jack on that character. I really gotta check out the rest of the series, esp. if it's more demon centric! Do you have a suggestion for a good one to start with?
Doesn't matter much to me, as long as it's skeletons.
Hurrah! It works! Oh, speaking of RPG Maker games, I've been playing this one rpgmaker.net/games/917/ It's um. Well so far as I can tell (I haven't gotten that far) you get stuck in this little desert almost-ghost-town and then things go all Silent Hill on you. There isn't really any way attack on your own, but you can use the environment to ward off and/or kill the terrible things.
Music: The Misfits, Bauhaus..., Movies: Jacob's Ladder (number one for all time), The Shining (still second place), John Carpenter's The Thing (forget the original, I say), Texas Chainsaw Massacre (the original), Night of the Living Dead (actually the color remake by Tom Savini was very nice too), old Cronenberg like Videodrome, The Poltergeist movies, American Werewolf in London, Evil Dead (the first movie will shock you by being actually scary, if you've never seen it), The Exorcist (the 3rd movie is actually very respected too), Hellraiser 1 & 2 (more demented than scary but I LOVE those), mm... I'm sure someone can add to that.
If you want horror movies and haven't watched David Lynch because he's too weird, you're shooting yourself in the foot. There are strong horror elements in most of his movies, especially: Eraserhead, Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me, Lost Highway, Mulholland Drive, and even Inland Empire. -
Will you marry me? -sorry Kelly :-)
Cronenberg is my god; David Lynch my spiritual father; Jacob's Ladder makes me sob like a little girl every time I see it (have you watched the amazing deleted scenes?); The Shining (Kubrick, not that shitty miniseries) altered my adolescence in the best way; and the original Night Of The Living Dead was the first horror movie I ever saw, at age 11 (strict Christian upbringing - hilariously, I saw it at a church Halloween event). Still horrifying. The Thing (John Carpenter) is one of the finest horror movies ever made. The 2011 prequel did pretty good homage, just without the slow burn creepiness and very hot bearded Kurt Russell.
I would add in no particular order: Alien, 28 Days Later, Angel Heart, the Re-Animator, From Beyond (yeah, I love cheesy horror), Day of the Triffids, Invasion of the Body Snatchers ('79), Nightbreed, Event Horizon, Jeepers Creepers, Let the Right One In (original), the Ring, and Thirteen Ghosts.
Post by thediscoking on Aug 22, 2012 23:56:32 GMT -8
O.O Oh, my...I'm more of a "light horror" person I guess. I read Ibutsi and I'm kind of afraid to turn off the lights, so...yeah.
But I do have something to suggest: Bizenghast. There's very little gore, but the art is beautiful and the storyline...Well, to be honest, I've only read four of the comics, but they really were something, in my opinion. Also, if you enjoy something mindless as well as horrific (and effin' funny) go to youtube and look up Pewdiepie. Some of the horror games he plays really freak me out, and I've gotten a lot of good suggestions from both him and his bros.
And just for something fun/horror themed, I enjoy playing Bikini Zombie Slayer for the Nintendo Wii. Its mostly hack'n'slash, but chock full of zombie goodness. I don't know why she's wearing a bikini, though...>.>;
Post by Thy Dungyeon Maestyr on Aug 23, 2012 10:02:00 GMT -8
Mary - Jacob's Ladder deleted scenes - I can't believe they included scenes with cool special FX. Usually it seems like if someone made an SFX shot, it was obliged to get into the final product. By the way, a lot of the list is Kelly stuff too, so you'll have to marry us both. Life is complicated. :-P I agree about The Thing prequel, but post-Disney Kurt Russell I prefer beardless. :-) Alien- How could I forget? Knew I'd miss some. 28 Days Later- Kelly had some complaints about this one that I can't answer, but we both think it was pretty great. Angel Heart- Just looked at the trailer on ifmb, interesting. Re-Animator- That shit was so tasteless and psycho! :-) Body Snatchers ('79)- Young hot Goldblum! Sutherland moustache! Creepy Spock! Man-headed dog! Nightbreed- Never saw it, but I've been interested. Event Horizon- I felt like this had nothing original to offer (The Shining meets Hellraiser in space), but it was fun. Jeepers Creepers- Limp characters and straight-to-video cinematography, but pretty cool and unusual premise. Let the Right One In (original)- of course! The Ring- Kelly and I have sharp disagreements on that one, and on the relative merits of the Japanese original. Kelly has read a translation of the Japanese novel it was based on and highly recommends it! Thirteen Ghosts- With Tony Shalhoub and Rah Digga? I couldn't get past the badness to keep watching it, but people keep recommending it, so there must be something compelling in there. Reminded me of Mr Boogedy: www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz2261A_chI
Disco- Couldn't find Ibutsi on google. What is it? Bizenghast- We can be kinda fussy about art and usually ignore OEL because it often looks like manga by way of Disney, but that one looks pretty cute. Video games- Kelly is thinking about cutting back to 4 hours of sleep per night to make time for them.
Christopher: Eh, I think you couldn't find it because I accidentally spelled it wrong...^^; Try the link up there, its the one Kelly gave. Scared the pants off me, it did.
As for Bizenhast, I'm lame when it comes to horror. I probably shouldn't be in this thread, but its giving me great ideas for what to write next. I've been looking for a solid idea for another horror story for half a year, and this is really teasing the deepest, most depraved parts of my brain.
As for cutting back to only four hours of sleep to game...I suppose do as you do, haha. I wouldn't survive on four hours of sleep--I can hardly survive on eight hours of sleep!--but if Kelly can, then that is Awesome Sauce with a ladle. ;D
The Grimoire by Kim Wilkins is a fantastic book, all hers are pretty good but this one is the best. The book' let me in' is pretty damn good. The first few chapters of warm bodies is legendary but then the romance comes in and ruins it a bit.
Post by Thy Dungyeon Maestyr on Aug 25, 2012 17:50:20 GMT -8
disco- Want practice writing a scary story? Do Kingfisher fanfic! Srry, I'm on a kick these days. BTW, if you can't figure out how to do a custom avatar, just use the drop down menu on the profile screen to try out our hot Kingfisher avatars. I made like fifty of em! :-)
Indea - Is "let me in" an English re-title of John Ajvide Lindqvist's "Låt den rätte komma in," aka "Let the Right One In?" Just checkin. I read that one, which is rare for me because I don't read much.
Reading translated work is interesting to me because I wonder to what extent culture moderates taste. A lot of foreign art seems cheesy to me, but what is cheesy to one country may be just right to another. I also read a few "Vampire Hunter D" books, which had a flaming cultural hoop to jump through. It's pretty crazy stuff.
Christopher- Exactly I just shortened it in my head, stupid English remake messing with me. The other issue is what your losing via translation, there are meanings that just don't work in english. I know in Japanese we do lose a lot because I have learnt some and there is some funny word-play we miss that I can pick up on a little.
Post by Thy Dungyeon Maestyr on Aug 26, 2012 13:59:04 GMT -8
Another problem I have with reading generally is similar to a problem Kelly has with TV. We can see the artifice and its distracting. I can often see exactly what a writer was trying to do in a scene, where they succeed, where they fail, and also weird underlying problems. For example, I could tell when I read Michael Crichton's "Timeline" that he had intended to include a type of sci-fi device that got lost in editing - but left one reference to it in early pages. In Perdido Street Station by China Miéville, I could see several plot threads he'd intended to be more important, but forgot for so long that he had to drop them in limp anti-climaxes. So I'm too busy paying attention to book report junk to let myself be transported. I don't know why I do that to myself. Anyway, I thought of it, because there were some seams showing in Let The Right One In that jumped out at me, but it's an occasion when I was willing to stow it for a fun story. Oh, one annoyance that was in both the book and the movie was a scientific quibble about cat eyes. When Eli gets nightvisionish, it's described as eyes going slitty like a cat's. Well, as anyone with a cat knows, cat eyes only go slitty in bright light. In the dark, they are hugely dilated. The reason a cat can see in the dark is - like our vampires - they have a reflective mass inside the back of the eyeball that lets them make use of less light. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapetum_lucidum
I have that problem with Anne Rice, love her books but she gets muddled by her own lore a lot. I am fine with most books I can suspend my disbelief but I have a nack with movies and TV for picking out plot keys. Also I tend to rip apart any use of psychology used in TV/film as a psych student, Dexter for example is a great show but Dexter is no psychopath.
Post by Thy Dungyeon Maestyr on Aug 27, 2012 2:57:14 GMT -8
Bad science - Yeah, yeah. It may be more forgivable in movies that predate our current understanding of things, but psychology is such a sensitive subject (for people who know people with problems) that bad psychology is painful to see.
The last line of Cabinet of Dr. Caligari - "Now we know how to cure him" makes me wince, because I WISH IT WAS THAT EASY. I have a good friend that just got out of a mental hospital. There's just no cure for most anything - just ongoing therapy to make life bearable. That doesn't fit into a pat narrative, so this myth keeps popping up in fiction even now.
Post by ◊◊BLOODBEASTER◊◊ on Aug 27, 2012 12:42:03 GMT -8
So many good things being mentioned here! I shall save them, for my evil machinations. Or just to, you know, take a look at. :B @ Christopher saying something about me quibbling with 28 Days Later--
OK, I actually really really like that movie, but I have one big beef with it, that is my requirement for enjoying monster stories of any kind. WHAT DO THE MONSTERS WANT? The zombies in that movie make no sense, I don't even understand what they're trying to do. They like, run up in people's grills and like, either scratch them or spit on them to spread the disease and like.. wander off? They gotta want to eat people or just kill them or SOMETHING! Plus the part where they're fooled by the guy pretending to be a zombie for a few minutes, I thought they had like hyper dog-like smell sense? (Which, how did they acquire in a few seconds after being human? We don't have those kind of receptors.) BAD SCIENCE AUGH! I feel ya, guys.
Doesn't matter much to me, as long as it's skeletons.
Post by ◊◊BLOODBEASTER◊◊ on Aug 27, 2012 12:44:32 GMT -8
PS @ Mary - I'm trying to remember which of these things Christopher STOLE FROM ME! I think he'd only seen Wild @ Heart for Lynch, so pretty sure that one came from me. Weird though, we have almost identical movie taste, at least by this point. He likes action movies more than me, though I like them too. I think I like pretentious art films more than him, but I'll have to ask him what's stuff that he hates that I like so we can ARGUE!
Doesn't matter much to me, as long as it's skeletons.