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Post by ◊◊BLOODBEASTER◊◊ on Oct 29, 2012 2:07:06 GMT -8
Aw! That's cool Audrey, I always find it funny how much my vampires end up wearing weird PJs or lounge-wear. I have to make a concerted effort to make them look fancy once in a while, because they'd rather bum around, apparently. I like cas vampires too, it makes a lot more sense to me. I know if I was immortal, I'd get bored of being expected to be fancy all the time too. I think it probably helps that in some ways I've been an outsider to vampire related entertainment, and came in through strange sideways avenues like Nightwatch, Let the Right One In, the Laughing Vampire etc. I try to reframe everything in a way that 'makes sense' to me, even if it's a bit odd for vampire story standards. :B Your friends sound like they've got some interesting tastes! I wonder if they're going to be participating in NaNoWriMo this year? (I am... somehow?! )
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Post by Audrey Siddons on Oct 29, 2012 2:47:33 GMT -8
Nah, they're slow burn writers. (Also twins, which is rad.) I think one of them tried a few years ago and nearly had an anxiety attack. I may, though, I did the script version early this year and I need some motivational structure to get the first piece of this multiple-medium superhero project I'm working on at least started. So, if you need to share your pain. Oh, and since someone mentioned Anne Rice earlier: I think The Vampire Armand is probably her strongest work, and it stands alone. Marius is interesting (relatively) young and Armand is so far different from their casting choice in Interview, it's negligent. He's actually really comparable to Theodore, I think. If you read all the way through, you might get pissed that she gets you all happy and shippy and then sort of let's it die off and pretends she never even blatantly put it out there. But that's kind of her MO as an author. She's endlessly frustrating. Super satisfying first third though, and its a huge book. For something that is actually 100% awesome, if totally NSFW in the ways that Anne Rice never got completely right, Michael Schiefelbein's Vampire Thrall is great if a really old vampire with a crush on Jesus isn't a deal breaker for you. They don't, uh, do anything though. Promise.
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Post by ∆§Indea§∆ on Oct 29, 2012 2:56:46 GMT -8
@audrey- 'The vampire Armand", her strongest piece? Bite thou tongue rogue child. Yes I agree she has some flaws as a writer, but she helped me through High school and Lestat is my homeboy. I am completley unreasonable when it comes to this I tells ya! I loved her early work up to Memnoch the devil, I really love the philosophy in her books, even though she quite likely insane and prone to writing stuff occasionally akin to bad fanfic.
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Post by Audrey Siddons on Oct 29, 2012 3:07:19 GMT -8
∆§Indea§∆ Oh, gosh, don't get me wrong, I loved most of her stuff. Armand is just my favorite, the way she conjures Venice is spectacular. She does pendulum between amazing philosophical moments and 'uuuuhhh....?!' moments at times, but the great moments far outweigh the bad. But her explanation of Lestat's uh, crazy coma, are beautiful in Armand, and the best representation of that arc, merely because its such an aching outside view. Especially with Armand's disappearance. I did mourn when she came out saying she'd never write Lestat again, and her religious reawakening, though probably good for her, was a very sad loss for the genre. Edit: as it turns out, earlier I meant Vampire Maker, not thrall. New Orleans, not Rome.
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Post by ◊◊BLOODBEASTER◊◊ on Oct 29, 2012 3:30:12 GMT -8
Ooh yeah horror lit talk, I love it! I've only read Interview verrry briefly, I had to speed-read to get it back to the library on time I want to read more of her work, but the Jesus-ination is pretty off putting. Now I'm scared I'm gonna get Jesused at if I read her books... I've read a lotta Poppy Z Brite which is my secret dirty guilty pleasure 'cause man those books are hella lame sometimes! The NaNoWriMo that I successfully won was at least in part a parody of of Brite-esque writing/characters. (So easy to do!) I haven't worked my way to the sexy serial killer era, but Lost Souls and Drawing Blood are amazingly trashy and awful/entertaining. The main character in Drawing Blood is the most ostentatious Mary-Sue I've ever seen in professional work, and it seems like most of the book was written while the author was stoned to hell and gone. Also, every character is basically gay, but NEVER is allowed to say that they're gay, and usually claim to not be gay regularly. Also, boys hold hands in public in the deep south, and get nary a 'fayget' hollered at them. Also, gross subtle misogyny and other weird stereotypes like a red-eyed albino pervert priest and the constant use of the phrase 'feral face' which I think may have been invented by the author and I cannot discern any meaning from. Yet, I recommend these books if you like being outraged by trashy fiction as much as I do. I loved reading it in the bathtub and going "UGH NO! NOOOO!" over and over, but I didn't stop reading. xDDD I also LOVED Flowers in the Attic by VC Andrews because I love torrid Grandma books about incest, child murder and sexy men with moustaches. I'm trying to get through the sequel, but even menstruation explosions can't get me through the pretty pretty ballerina fest that is the first half. EDIT: I have to mention one of my fave scenes in Drawing Blood-- For some reason butt sex makes a character go into a coma of PURE IMAGINATION and the other guy has to drink coffee (!) to go into a magic coma too. Huh? Then there's some bullshit about time travel or something. I don't get it, but butt sex comas amused me greatly.
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Post by ◊◊BLOODBEASTER◊◊ on Oct 29, 2012 3:31:20 GMT -8
@ Audrey-- Ohh that book you linked to sounds familiar. I wonder if I read about it when I was doing some vampire related research. Sounds really fun and way more high class than the garbage I'm usually reading.
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Post by Audrey Siddons on Oct 29, 2012 3:59:34 GMT -8
@ Kelly — Just added every single one of those books to my list. I will buy them all, starting with Drawing Blood, oh my goodness. My second-hand bookstore is going to judge me, but I've always worked trashy fiction into my reading (occassionally trashy non-fiction, though self-help is being killed by the internet ((rightly so (((one more parenthetical to give you a headache)))))). It seems to me some trashy fiction that does get published is like 20x less worthy than some of the fanfiction you find around. If I may recommend a work of fanfiction, Nine Eleven Ten is probably the most chilling and interesting works I have ever read. (It's Charles/Erik or Professor X/Magneto, which is so close to canon anyway that it shouldn't be too offensive) It is seriously messed up, an adaption of Beauty and The Beast with Charles clever and beaten down and Erik pretty much mindcontrolled to oblivion set in the middle of an insane mutant world war. Kind of 'if Erik hadn't rebelled' and actually fell in line with Shaw. Has a really kick-ass villian role for Emma Frost and is ultimately scary and weird and awesome.
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Post by Audrey Siddons on Oct 29, 2012 4:01:01 GMT -8
@ Kelly — Though if you get into it, the time between chapters will make your heart ache.
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Post by ∆§Indea§∆ on Oct 29, 2012 4:37:19 GMT -8
@kelly-Read up to Memnoch and the Armand one without fear of being Jesus-ed, I have and have never gotten close. If you like vampires it's kind of a must, Lestat is an 80's fashion freak and its great fun! She loves detailing Lestat's outfits and there's lots of cashmere and velvet involved. The vampire Lestat has amazing imagery, the first scenes in the 1800's has this great sequence in which he kills a pack of wolves. The characters are great and damaged at the same time. There is a great mix of philosophy, horror and a dark humour to it. It can get pretty warped but in a good way most of the time.
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Post by DKender on Oct 29, 2012 5:48:59 GMT -8
@ Suyoi - Since you mention The Abandoned, are you in to After Dark Horrorfest fare? The lineup's very hit and miss (lots of misses), but there are some pretty gems in the lot. Personally, I am a fan of Lake Mungo. Definitely a slooow, atmospheric movie, and I've met many people who were bored and unimpressed, but it culminates in a profoundly (at least to me) disturbing climax.
As for guilty pleasures ... I sometimes still skim the Goosebumps books I collected as a wee little first grader. For the nostalgia. Ermagerd.
And has Anne Rice left Christianity? Somebody told me that she did, but I thought that she still considered herself a Christian, but does not agree with the bigoted slant common to Catholicism.
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Post by ∆§Indea§∆ on Oct 29, 2012 6:58:10 GMT -8
DKender-That movie was the 'Shiz Nitz', that was my first suggestion here. I got so freaked out by that movie, but then Ararat is a freaky place!! I have been there with my own eyeballs !! It was on only a million dollar budget and came out before Abnormal activity, it actually accomplishes what Abnormal Activity failed miserably to. I hope I make sense, it's late here I should be sleeping Hahhaha. I don't think she was that committed to begin with. I don't know personally, but she is back in the horror fold. Last she did werewolves pretty erotically and uncatholic like. I don't care though personally, because her religious affiliation doesn't deminish her awesome works. @audrey- With the no longer writing Lestat thing, he kind of died in Memnoch. In the later books he was never really the same to me. She blames the death of her husband, I think sadly she just lost the mojo.
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Post by Audrey Siddons on Oct 29, 2012 11:19:18 GMT -8
∆§Indea§∆ My mother says that she came out saying that Lestat was based on her husband, so that's why she wont write him anymore. however, I totally didn't know anything about her quitting Christianity in 2010 until twenty minutes ago. Disregard everything I've said thusfar. I will return when I am well informed.
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Post by Suyoi on Oct 29, 2012 12:36:53 GMT -8
@dk- To be quite honest I quite readily have to be strapped to a chair to watch anything even slightly scary. ^.^0 I'm really a big weenie and I don't do a lot of horror. Kingfisher is pretty much my gravy for horror and that is about it. >_< So, no horrorfests for me. I have been squinting my eyes flipping past AMC today so I don't even catch thsoe horror moments. If there was no soundtrack, I'd probably be okay, but the music... gah. For some reason, I'm more in tune with the music than the visual shock... which is annoying because I LOVE music, but hate noises. ... Bleh. I just tossed The Abandoned in because it wasn't shocking in so much as intriguing.
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Post by ◊◊BLOODBEASTER◊◊ on Oct 29, 2012 18:45:46 GMT -8
Ooooh so much good stuff! Audrey, I'll be sure to check out this story you mentioned. Christopher loves superhero stuff so I'll have to read it to him and make him cry. @ Dkender- whooaaa that spooky Chazz guy story is great! The closest I have to that is watching Dawn of the Dead with my friends while I was noisily eating a caramel apple on a stick. They kept staring at me and making gross faces, and I couldn't tell why. Oh, also a friend of mine eating tons of deviled eggs while we watched Evil Dead II. That's about it. @ Suyoi - AWW! I love being your token horror-meister. Honestly I'm so fussy for horror, that I mostly don't partake in it besides books these days. I love Horror manga though too. My favoritest Tumblr: hellyeahhorrormanga.tumblr.com/(Full of illustrated gory bits so beware!) PS-- Dkender mentioned Gooseberms, which I loved of course. I was such a goth child, I can't believe it. Loved Tim Burton everything, slept with a stuffed pumpkin and black cat... My favorite part in Goosebumps books were when a character would exclaim "NOOOOO!" I knew I'd gotten to the pinnacle. Speaking of that sort of thing, remember "Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark?" That illustrator is one of my top favorite artists and very inspirational to both me and Christopher coincidentally! www.comicsalliance.com/2010/10/25/scary-stories-to-tell-in-the-dark-art/
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Post by DKender on Oct 29, 2012 19:30:42 GMT -8
I wonder if he ever found Chazz. And OOOH Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark! They were all at my elementary school, and as a child, this face used to keep me awake at night.
IMAGE DUN GONE
The 30th anniversary printing of that series had different illustrations, though, because the originals were apparently too scary for kiddies?? It's really unfortunate. Those arts are some of the most delightful and vivid parts of my childhood.
AW do you still have that stuffed pumpkin, Kelly?
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